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Post by mwhiteaker on Aug 25, 2015 14:20:05 GMT
So I've been told a few different things. Some say flies are useless because you can't do much weight and others say it's great for hitting the middle of your chest and for really shaping the pec. I do them at the end of my workout but should I just drop them off the routine?
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Post by TM79 on Aug 25, 2015 15:09:36 GMT
Good question Mike. I don't claim to be an expert, but am smarter than a lot of folks. There is a gentleman by the name of Mark Rippetoe. He looks at training from a very matter of fact, functional point of view. Jaysun and I tend to more or less subscribe to many of his views and theories regarding training. When it comes to exercises like flies, I generally don't consider them very useful or helpful. I know that you tend to train more from a body building perspective, so they may hold some value for you. For me, when I used to do them, I found that more often than not, they just put an unnecessary strain on my shoulders. Nowadays, I have two primary goals in mind for training. 1. Gain Strength as effectively as possible. 2. Be in good overall cardiovascular shape and maintain a high capacity to "do work." Every minute of my training and every exercise that I do is chosen to better myself at one or both of those goals in the least amount of time as possible. Here is a good article about this. Again, I know that you may have different goals for your training, but that is where I come from. Personally, I wouldn't bother with movements like flies or even shoulder raises. They strain my shoulders and don't really make me stronger. At least in a functional way. For example, if I had to lift something from the ground (or waist high) to my chest or to overhead, I would do it in a way that mimicked a Clean or Clean and Press, etc. I wouldn't lift it with my arms extended straight out. Hopefully that makes sense. I'd definitely be interested to hear other views on this.
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Post by jaysun on Aug 25, 2015 19:03:27 GMT
DB flies do target the center of your chest. Back in the early 90's when I did what is called "powerbuilding" now, I did DB flies and found them to be useful. The key is to not put too much weight on, keep the arms bent at the elbow (Hug a tree)and keep a small ROM.
What TM79 said above is true as I don't really do DB flies except as an assistance exercise. When I do them, I keep the weight around 25-35# x 4x8-10 just my 2 cents.
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Post by mwhiteaker on Aug 26, 2015 1:31:31 GMT
I shy away from the DB flies i mainly hit the cable machine for them. ROM is somthing i need to work on those becasue i feel it in my shoulders today hahah
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